Discussion:
[Wine] Mappery inquiry
Beartooth
2015-07-06 16:29:11 UTC
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Last time I tried, a few years back, Wine was not yet up to
handling Garmin's proprietary topo map software. It would install, and
sometimes even work, so long as I didn't try to connect a GPS to it. (The
ones I have are all also Garmins -- old ones wanting a serial port.)

I made a huge effort, for most of a year, with a lot of help from
high-powered Alpha Plus Technoids on several lists, this one not least
among them. But I only ever got one GPS to talk to the software one time,
and never figured out how ....

What I'm trying to do (and did, under M$, years ago) is go locate
game trails, lunch rocks, good stands, etc., on a hunting ground; then
come home and include all that info into a good map, to scale, of the
hunting ground.

Another approach would be to install, say, XP onto a virtual
machine, and do the work there. That did work, for a while, after a
sufficiently sophisticated technoid friend installed an emulation, or
sandbox, or whatever it was. But when I once bollixed up the virtual
machine, my cyber-savvy didn't suffice to restore it.

And yes, I know there are Linux-native suites nowadays; and
Garmin is reported to've put its source code into the public domain.
Alas!, those suites all seem to require advanced degrees in CS,
cartography, or fields too fierce to mention. <sigh>

Are we there yet?
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Klaus-Peter Schrage
2015-07-07 13:04:55 UTC
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You probably searched the Wine application database
(https://appdb.winehq.org/) to find out that there hasn't been much
progress recently with Garmin applications (I tried to install BaseCamp
and MapSource into wine, neither with much success).

But did you have a look at QLandkarteGT? It is a native Linux
application and it is not rocket science to use. You can load waypoints
and tracks from a Garmin device to display them on a map, if it is that
what you want to accomplish. There are a lot of free maps available, it
is described in the wiki how to load them into QLandkarte.

Older Garmin serial devices seem to be supported, but I could not try
that because I only have an USB device (Dakota 20).

HTH
Post by Beartooth
Last time I tried, a few years back, Wine was not yet up to
handling Garmin's proprietary topo map software. It would install, and
sometimes even work, so long as I didn't try to connect a GPS to it. (The
ones I have are all also Garmins -- old ones wanting a serial port.)
I made a huge effort, for most of a year, with a lot of help from
high-powered Alpha Plus Technoids on several lists, this one not least
among them. But I only ever got one GPS to talk to the software one time,
and never figured out how ....
What I'm trying to do (and did, under M$, years ago) is go locate
game trails, lunch rocks, good stands, etc., on a hunting ground; then
come home and include all that info into a good map, to scale, of the
hunting ground.
Another approach would be to install, say, XP onto a virtual
machine, and do the work there. That did work, for a while, after a
sufficiently sophisticated technoid friend installed an emulation, or
sandbox, or whatever it was. But when I once bollixed up the virtual
machine, my cyber-savvy didn't suffice to restore it.
And yes, I know there are Linux-native suites nowadays; and
Garmin is reported to've put its source code into the public domain.
Alas!, those suites all seem to require advanced degrees in CS,
cartography, or fields too fierce to mention. <sigh>
Are we there yet?
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Beartooth
2015-07-07 19:17:23 UTC
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Post by Klaus-Peter Schrage
You probably searched the Wine application database
(https://appdb.winehq.org/) to find out that there hasn't been much
progress recently with Garmin applications (I tried to install BaseCamp
and MapSource into wine, neither with much success).
I tried both MapSource and a couple of its more specific sub-
suites, one for roads & towns, and one for hunting/hiking/Appalachian
Trail, etc. Those were the ones I eventually did get to run, but not to
talk to any Garmin GPS that I had.
Post by Klaus-Peter Schrage
But did you have a look at QLandkarteGT? It is a native Linux
application and it is not rocket science to use. You can load waypoints
and tracks from a Garmin device to display them on a map, if it is that
what you want to accomplish. There are a lot of free maps available, it
is described in the wiki how to load them into QLandkarte.
I think that's one I did try. It was a lot more user-friendly
than any other I found, and I was even getting info and explanations from
the chief developer, for a while. Then my questions got so elementary
that he suspected me (he said) of trolling. I assured him both I and my
questions were real -- but I also got out of his hair, and let that dog
lie. This was a few years ago. I'll look again.

A friend on a private list reports he's "had excellent
luck with iGage software running under Wine."

Another on the same list says "Let me look into this. Given my
line of work, this is right up my alley."

Stay tuned.
Post by Klaus-Peter Schrage
Older Garmin serial devices seem to be supported, but I could not try
that because I only have an USB device (Dakota 20).
I have an Etrex and a pair of Rinos, but I'm thinking of getting
a Montana, primarily for the color display and the USB plug. (I tried
every kind of serial to USB adapter I could get, without success.)
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Beartooth
2015-07-07 20:24:29 UTC
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On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 15:04:55 +0200, Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
[....]
Post by Klaus-Peter Schrage
But did you have a look at QLandkarteGT? It is a native Linux
application and it is not rocket science to use. You can load waypoints
and tracks from a Garmin device to display them on a map, if it is that
what you want to accomplish. There are a lot of free maps available, it
is described in the wiki how to load them into QLandkarte.
Post by Beartooth
Are we there yet?
` We progress, anyway :

[***@localhost btth]# dnf install qlandkartegt
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:45 ago on Tue Jul 7
15:42:19 2015.
Dependencies resolved.
==================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
==================================================================
Installing:
CharLS x86_64 1.0-8.fc22 fedora 66 k
armadillo x86_64 4.650.2-1.fc22 fedora 25 k
arpack x86_64 3.1.5-1.fc22 fedora 108 k
freexl x86_64 1.0.1-1.fc22 fedora 36 k
garmindev x86_64 0.3.4-9.fc22 fedora 122 k
gdal-libs x86_64 1.11.2-3.fc22 fedora 4.4 M
geos x86_64 3.4.2-3.fc22 fedora 532 k
gpsbabel x86_64 1.5.2-1.fc22 fedora 820 k
libdap x86_64 3.13.1-3.fc22 fedora 441 k
libgeotiff x86_64 1.4.0-3.fc22 fedora 715 k
libgta x86_64 1.0.7-1.fc22 fedora 37 k
libspatialite x86_64 4.2.0-3.fc22 fedora 2.1 M
netcdf x86_64 4.3.3.1-1.fc22 fedora 687 k
ogdi x86_64 3.2.0-0.23.beta2.fc22 fedora 251 k
proj-epsg x86_64 4.8.0-7.fc22 fedora 63 k
qlandkartegt x86_64 1.8.1-2.fc22 fedora 3.9 M

Transaction Summary
==================================================================
Install 16 Packages

Total download size: 14 M
Installed size: 50 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y

Keep staying tuned!
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Christ-Jan Wijtmans
2015-07-08 06:44:16 UTC
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Post by Beartooth
[....]
Post by Klaus-Peter Schrage
But did you have a look at QLandkarteGT? It is a native Linux
application and it is not rocket science to use. You can load waypoints
and tracks from a Garmin device to display them on a map, if it is that
what you want to accomplish. There are a lot of free maps available, it
is described in the wiki how to load them into QLandkarte.
Post by Beartooth
Are we there yet?
Last metadata expiration check performed 0:00:45 ago on Tue Jul 7
15:42:19 2015.
Dependencies resolved.
==================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
==================================================================
CharLS x86_64 1.0-8.fc22 fedora 66 k
armadillo x86_64 4.650.2-1.fc22 fedora 25 k
arpack x86_64 3.1.5-1.fc22 fedora 108 k
freexl x86_64 1.0.1-1.fc22 fedora 36 k
garmindev x86_64 0.3.4-9.fc22 fedora 122 k
gdal-libs x86_64 1.11.2-3.fc22 fedora 4.4 M
geos x86_64 3.4.2-3.fc22 fedora 532 k
gpsbabel x86_64 1.5.2-1.fc22 fedora 820 k
libdap x86_64 3.13.1-3.fc22 fedora 441 k
libgeotiff x86_64 1.4.0-3.fc22 fedora 715 k
libgta x86_64 1.0.7-1.fc22 fedora 37 k
libspatialite x86_64 4.2.0-3.fc22 fedora 2.1 M
netcdf x86_64 4.3.3.1-1.fc22 fedora 687 k
ogdi x86_64 3.2.0-0.23.beta2.fc22 fedora 251 k
proj-epsg x86_64 4.8.0-7.fc22 fedora 63 k
qlandkartegt x86_64 1.8.1-2.fc22 fedora 3.9 M
Transaction Summary
==================================================================
Install 16 Packages
Total download size: 14 M
Installed size: 50 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Keep staying tuned!
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Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User
Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.
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